if my memory serves me right in the 80's there was an effort to call on those who were disfellowshipped.
elders would seek them out (or we're supposed to) to see if there was anything they could do to help them come back.
it seemed like a good idea at the time to me.
Maybe a number of faithful publishers were troubled by the blatant "one law for some and another law for others" and were asking the org a very troublesome question:
"The organization forbids publishers from trying to encourage their disfellowshipped loved one to return to the org, but encourages elders to do so. Where is the scriptural guidance/principle for this contradiction?"
in case any collectors don't have these yet:.
correspondence 1977-1980 between carl olof jonsson and the watchtower society.
http://kristenfrihet.se/english/corr.htm.
Basically the WTBTS's response was, "Very interesting brother, but keep your mouth shut, and do not discuss this with any other J.W.'s Just wait on Jehovah/His organization to come up with any new information. We're in charge of divulging what is"truth" - not you!"
i am now officially 'inactive' so am no longer chased by an elder a for a report.
the congregation i belonged to never had much time for me anyway, i said once i could drop down dead in the k.hall and no one would notice.
so i never expected anyone to be particularly bothered that i wasn't there and they aren't.
So sorry that you're hurting because of the shunning. That's what the shunning's supposed to do - hurt you so much that you want to crawl back on your hands and knees and beg the shunners to forgive you.
We should mourn that our blinded shunners are unable/unwilling to assimilate any of the information which exposes their beloved organization, and not that we've lost such cult-directed friendships. It hurts to know that sincere love and compassion can be repaid in such an inhuman way. I hope you make new and better friends soon.
latest perspective of the san diego reader on wts loosing its $4000 per day sanction appeal.... https://m.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/nov/10/ticker-jehovahs-witnesses-withheld-info-4000-day/?templates=mobile.
So far, the total is over $2 million - and counting. Not a lot of money to the cult???????
Who cares! It's a helluva lot of cash in the eyes of the fleeced sheep who are continually being asked to give more!
Advertise, advertise, advertise - how the org is squandering the Worldwide Work contributions to cover its sins! Information like this can easily be shared without any problem; "Isn't it terrible that Jehovah's organization is now being attacked by Satan's system via the courts. How can they justify fining us $4000 per day?" :)
Go on, help someone you care about by sharing this information.
looks like trump wants to take out the scientologists.. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-scientology-tax-exemption_us_5a04dd35e4b05673aa584cab?vpo .
as a cult, could the watchtower be close behind?.
Perhaps an alternative question/suggestion could be - "Why don't all religions lose their tax-free status?"
Just imagine the sizeable revenues which many countries would receive if they made religions pay their way in society.
i started studying with witnesses about 21 months ago.
started going to meetings in march 2017, went to the memorial and attended my first convention.
i love it.
Hi Allyson, welcome. You're about to find out how unloving J.W. elders really are when they get you into their interrogation room.
Sadly, most J.W.'s realise too late that they don't have to discuss their private lives with the elders - or anyone else for that matter. Quietly tell one of these wolves that you don't wish to discuss your private & personal situation with anyone at the moment. DO NOT SPEAK WITH 2 ELDERS AT THE SAME TIME! Politely inform him that you have done nothing which requires elders involvement.
The elders reaction to your positive stance will prove that J.W.'s are cult-driven. Time for you to leave and be thankful you didn't get in deeper. Many here will envy you. Best wishes.
it's bitter sweet to find a site like this..i was born in the truth.
when i was 16 i given the option to stop going.
father and mothers family are both witnesses.
Welcome Jayk, I'm sure you'll gain much by being here.
Thanks to the internet, more and more people are discovering how putrid the WTBTS really is.
lett announce to his braindead indoctrinated rank and file masses the wt corporation is short on funds and so they have money problems.
he made light of his role and the rest of management's predicament by saying on a public broadcast: "in doing the math we found that the amount of money flowing out will be much greater than the amount of money coming in at this time".
clearly the guys on the gb have very little business sense to let things get so out of hand with tons of projects in the works and having to close all of them except for warwick, and one in england.. i have to wonder just what type of math these dead heads on the gb even know or consider when making all their plans for the future of the corporation they have leadership over.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is nothing more than a group of men who have been put into a position of public oversight and alleged spiritual authority of a religious denomination - in other words, front-men or puppets. Individually, not one of them has any financial management or business expertise which would qualify their running of a multi-billion dollar corporation. They are simply the issuers & enforcers of WTBTS's laws and regulations.
i happen to be cruising around the net and stumbled upon this question on a different forum.
how do jw's answer jesus words in john 6:54 today?.
"whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and i will raise them up at the last day.
Probably the Revised Revision of the Updated New World Translation will give "new light" interpretations of some verses, e.g. 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and 144,000 men, a man, Christ Jesus."
let the reader use discernment:.
i was disfellowshipped in june of last year.
while i've been awake for nearly a year, i still often feel groggy.
For me, Brokenkite's most profound and factual statement (with one disagreement) was this - And instead of targeting a J.W. audience, which is mostly futile, I think a well-balanced, factual, and emotional approach to a secular audience would put more pressure on Watchtower.
Bethelites will most likely be in one of two camps - either they will be totally in awe of their golden calf - the WTBTS, or they have come to realise that their choice of servitude to the org has resulted in their social, familial, and mental imprisonment. Neither party's hearts or minds will be reached by such a method. It's like the J.W. claim that trolley-zombieism is giving "a great witness."
Mostly futile? I'd say totally.
